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POLAND - Foodsharing Warsaw

Info provided by karolinahansen on Slack, Janina Abels visited Warsaw in Latest update from 2018-09-28, Janina Abels and Tilmann visited and met up with 7 foodsavers.

Foodsharing Warszawa has around 60 members. They have cooperations with 20+ stores, which are mostly one-person pickups, managed through their Karrot group. Members are encouraged to bring picked up food to the public fridges (Jadłodzielnie). They are mostly communicating in their closed facebook group which has lots of discussions.

There are some stores where many people want to pick up. Some people do so more often because they are immediately clicking the "join pickup" button when it appears. Talking helped to alleviate to a certain degree, but sometimes the people just don't reply or when asked to meet up to clarify the situation, they say they are busy. Many in the group are of the opinion that those doing "nice" pickups should also help with hard pickups. (Noteworthy: despite this problem, most people respect the pickup settings, they don't increase max slots. So far, there might have been one person in the Warsaw group who did it.)

If people miss a pickup, it's sometimes hard to reach them. And Karrot still says that they did it.

There was a person in the group who offended many. They made a decision to remove him and told him "as you have been kicked out, you should leave our karrot group". This bluff worked, probably because the person didn't know that there were no admin roles in karrot.

Discussions in the facebook group are sometimes heated. This puts off people who want to introduce newcomers. Our discussion round liked the option to turn off comments for posts (in facebook).

Not many new people join and even less stay. They usually do advertising via their public facebook page. "For every 3 posts, 1 person joins."

There are not many people coming to meetups and not much in-person discussion. This leads to a feeling of low cohesion in the group.

At least one person has been requesting food deliveries from the group for reasons of being poor but having no time to pick up food. This is half met with resistance, half with support.

For starting cooperations with big stores, they miss people with more transport capacity. Not many have a car and there is no cargo bike culture in Warsaw (so far at least...). A cooperation with car rental companies could be a intermediate solution.

They avoid forming an association to reduce liablity and fees. This makes it harder to cooperate with big stores who usually want to a contract.

For a recent city event, a group member made a board game where players have to gather ingredients for a meal by picking up food from public fridges. The fridge on the game board closely resemble the real locations. It looks very well-done, printed on thick A0-sized paper, cardboard pieces for ingredients and cards for the meals. It was a hit with the children at the event.

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titleOlder infos from September 2016

Agnieszka and Karolina started a facebook group based on foodsharing.de's experience around March 2016.

Community: 15 core people who meet every two weeks, only 1 verified foodsaver so far (because of a lack of cooperations) and around 30 more aspiring ones (by 09/2016). After 10-20 interviews for different media in May they now get contacted by people all over Poland and other cities already started foodsharing initiatives as well.

Food-Share Points: 3 fridges, soon 4 (by 09/2016). They call them 'Jadłodzielnia' (from 'jadło' - the fodder + 'dzielić' - to share + '-nia' - marks a location). Are used by the people, but sometimes empty.

Stores: The most lacking part so far. No regular pick-ups, just spontaneous calls from a bakery, a chef-in-training, and a seafood store.

Legal: foodsharing Warszawa doesn't want to register as an organization, because as private individuals noone is liable for possible problems due to the FSPs.

Difficulties: getting more stores to cooperate. Will focus from Oct. 2016 onwards to get regular cooperations. The Polish gift law, which makes the recipient of a gift pay 10% of its value to the state.

Solutions for handling the gift tax problem:

  1. First solution is clandestineness (The food is 'abandoned' and 'coincidentally' gets found by the foodsaver. Downside: Makes the cooperation inofficial and illegitimate.)
  2. Second solution is price reduction (where the store reduces the price to ridiculously small amounts and thus makes the tax almost non-existent. Downside: There still is money involved and the store has more work in accounting.)
  3. Third solution are tax-free amounts (If the value of the gifted items doesn't exceed a certain amount of money over some years, no tax needs to be paid. Downside: Work in accounting.)

How does it work? Extensive use of facebook:
Fanpage with 2246 likes (by 09/2016) https://www.facebook.com/FoodsharingWarszawa/
A closed group for the orgateam consisting of 14 people (by 09/2016)
A closed group for private foodsharing, dumster diving and freeganism, which already existed before, with 2069 members (by 09/2016)
A closed group for connecting organizations that have food with those who need it with 13 members (by 09/2016)
A closed group to coordinate the expansion of foodsharing to other Polish cities with 26 members (by 09/2016) 

They have no quiz. 3 trial pick-ups are needed to become a verified foodsaver, two meetings must be visited to get the password to the orga-googledrive. On that drive there are spreadsheets about FSPs, pick-ups and verified and aspiring foodsavers, meeting minutes, a general rules sheet, flyers and posters, also to approach stores and basically everything they work on. The googledrive is like the office of foodsharing Warsaw, and who has the password is part of the orgateam.

Still dreaming of translating foodsharing.de. Interested to try out a basic software. Already thinking about building an app for themselves.

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